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Right-wing Extremist
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Posted - 2014.06.04 16:26:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:In the far too short duration of 5 matches, only when they're moving backwards away from me- as in when they are facing me and moving away- did I feel like I had trouble scoring hits. Still the same as when they are trying to run away normally. Would love hotfix beta to include backwards speed be changed to 80%
This. If I'm running at you and you're backpedaling, you should not be able to move at the same rate of speed.
Jaceon Pale-eye.
Soon to be the deadliest prick in Dust University.
Believe it.
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Right-wing Extremist
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Posted - 2014.06.07 08:57:00 -
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mr musturd wrote:Never ever ever allow a sprint while charged mechanic the only thing they need is the same aim assistance that the melee uses and possibly a very small range increase NOT a lunge mechanic. But seriously sprint while charge is one sure way to make knives OP, people can hate me all they want for this comment but its not needed for me to be able to sprint at the speed of light and 1hko everything in sight. As for the changes in Alpha I haven't noticed any real difference
As much as it would make life so much easier and I'd abuse the **** out of it, I agree with mustard. Despite my own posts initially loving the idea.
It'd make effective knifing too easy. It would make it FOTM. Suddenly IshNoks and KinKats doing 1580 damage to anyone and everyone they can sprint past. No.
Do not want.
I also don't like the idea of widening the angle I do damage in. I haven't had that much trouble (when I get in range to strike without dying first to their bricktanked shotgun scout - wasn't Alpha supposed to nerf/discourage that whole thing?) and I'm concerned that making it a wider effective angle would also serve to make it too easy, leading to the FOTM risk.
I'm uncertain on the range increase... it'd be convenient, but I'm not certain I really need it. Better hit detection (or maybe this is actually the aim mechanic mentioned playing tricks on me?) would be sweet.
The delay adjustment would make me worship you as my personal lord and saviour (ingame m8m8 o7o7)
Just don't make my Minja w/ Knives FOTM. The cloak nerf ****** my minja suit enough already since I'm not at Complex Damps yet, I don't need my knives becoming OP and subsequently getting my favorite method of hunting (kdr be damned!) getting nerfed further.
You gave us a hacking bonus without giving us the range or precision to see who's at the point before we proceed (unless we run with no shields).
You gave us the role of assassin with the bonus to knife damage, without giving us the low profile to remain undetected by our prey (unless we run with no armor).
Fine. Be that way. But you just make sure that you be careful fixing our suicidal favorite weapon's minor problems by making minor fixes only, please. It shouldn't be as easy as cloak/shotgun. It should be a lot trickier, a lot more difficult - and it is. I'm saying it should stay that way. We put our clones on the line for every kill we get. Risk vs. Reward, isn't that one of CCP's maxims? Sprint-charging and a wider angle of effect would mitigate a lot of the risk... do not want.
Jaceon Pale-eye.
Soon to be the deadliest prick in OSG.
Unless Mal says no :(
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Right-wing Extremist
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Posted - 2014.06.07 09:32:00 -
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I already run. The charge only takes a heartbeat.
I'm sick of seeing shotgun scouts. I can only imagine how sick I'd be if all the skill-less shotgun scouts (I'm NOT saying every scout with a shotty is a scrub... just most of 'em) were suddenly knifing.
As it is now, knives are pretty effective, just slightly quirky. And very risky. To be a good knifer, you gotta want it.
EDIT: I'm almost there. I'm a 'decent' knifer at the moment... working on getting good :p
Jaceon Pale-eye.
Soon to be the deadliest prick in OSG.
Unless Mal says no :(
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Right-wing Extremist
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Posted - 2014.06.07 11:07:00 -
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lol fair enough, Blood. o7
Jaceon Pale-eye.
Soon to be the deadliest prick in OSG.
Unless Mal says no :(
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Right-wing Extremist
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Posted - 2014.06.07 19:59:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:A few more things to add.
I can look at adding an optimisation skill for Nova Knives to reduce PG usage (CPU is already covered by sidearm operation).
The progression between Standard, Advanced and Prototype Nova Knives for their charge time is a bit out of whack. It currently goes 1.5, 1.0, 0.8. I'm considering changing it to 1.0, 0.9, 0.8. Can anyone see any big issues or feel that this would greatly diminish the value of getting better knives?
Diminishes value of getting better knives AND investing SP in the skill itself, besides. Charge time is fine.
Quote:Similar to charge time, the damage progression is also not smooth, going 90, 150, 200. This one is easier to fix just by bumping up standard damage by 10.
Acceptable, though not necessary imo.
Jaceon Pale-eye.
Soon to be the deadliest prick in OSG.
Unless Mal says no :(
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Posted - 2014.06.07 21:42:00 -
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Stefan Stahl wrote:To properly judge the value of the STD knives' damage I'd need a refresher on the total damage when charged up. Can anyone help out with tested/proven numbers?
In my opinion a STD knife should deal some ~500 damage. Not enough to kill an ADV medium fitting, but good enough to have fun in low-tier matches. Maybe you should sample some actual STD tier fittings from TQ and figure out how much damage a STD knifer would need to deal to kill most of them.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2191627#post2191627
Minja exceeds 500 damage with STD knives at Scout level 3 (comes close to 500 at Scout 2, about 470 at Scout 1), assuming no proficiency (or else why would you still be using STD knives at all?)
At Scout 1, NK 1, using STD knives on STD scout, I was killing anything that wasn't an ADV or PRO suit pretty reliably, except heavies/commandos/sentinels. ADV knives opened my target envelope to include ADV heavies/commandoes, Sentinels take a bit more (usually just a followup swipe (uncharged) after both knives hit charged.
One Eyed King wrote:Nothi Knives?
This. 
Jaceon Pale-eye.
Soon to be the deadliest prick in OSG.
Unless Mal says no :(
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Right-wing Extremist
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Posted - 2014.06.24 00:18:00 -
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Nor can one sprint and charge the knives at the same time. So if we start at 5m, facing each other, moving in the same direction, you will kill me with your SMG before I can stab you once. Backwards movement speed is not in balance.
Jaceon Pale-eye.
Soon to be the deadliest prick in OSG.
Unless Mal says no :(
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